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Microsoft’s latest plea for CVD is as much propaganda as sincere.

Earlier today, Chris Betz, senior director of the Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC), posted a blog calling for “better coordinated vulnerability disclosure“.

Before I begin a rebuttal of sorts, let me be absolutely clear. The entire OSVDB team is very impressed with Microsoft’s transition over the last decade as far as security response goes. The MSRC has evolved and matured greatly, which is a benefit to both Microsoft and their customers world-wide. This post is not meant to undermine their efforts at large, rather to point out that since day one, propaganda is still a valuable tool for the company. I will preface this with a reminder that this is not a new issue. I have personally blogged about this as far back as 2001, after Scott Culp (Microsoft at the time) wrote a polarizing piece about “information anarchy” that centered around disclosure issues. At some point Microsoft realized this was a bad position to take and that it didn’t endear them to the researchers providing free vulnerability information to them. Despite that, it took almost ten years for Microsoft to drop the term “responsible” disclosure (also biased against researchers) in favor of “coordinated” disclosure. Again, Microsoft has done a phenomenal job advancing their security program, especially the last three to five years. But… it is on the back of a confrontational policy toward researchers.

Reading yesterday’s blog, there are bits and pieces that stand out to me for various reasons. It is easy to gloss over many of these if you aren’t a masochist and spend most of your waking time buried in vulnerability aggregation and related topics.

In terms of the software industry at large and each player’s responsibility, we believe in Coordinated Vulnerability Disclosure (CVD).

Not sure I have seen “CVD” as a formal initialism until now, which is interesting. After trying to brand “information anarchy” and pushing the “responsible disclosure” term, good to see you embrace a better term.

Ultimately, vulnerability collaboration between researchers and vendors is about limiting the field of opportunity so customers and their data are better protected against cyberattacks.

And this line, early on in the blog, demonstrates you do not live in the real world of vulnerability disclosure. Microsoft has enjoyed their ‘ivory’ tower so to speak. Many researchers find and disclose vulnerabilities for entirely selfish reasons (e.g. bug bounties), which you basically do not offer. Yes, you have a bounty program, but it is very different from most and does not reward a vast majority of vulnerabilities reported to you. Microsoft has done well in creating a culture of “report vulnerabilities to us for free for the honor of being mentioned in one of our advisories”. And I get that! Being listed as a creditee in a Microsoft advisory is advertising itself as far as researcher talent. However… you are talking about a minority of researchers in the greater picture, that chase that honor.

Those in favor of full, public disclosure believe that this method pushes software vendors to fix vulnerabilities more quickly and makes customers develop and take actions to protect themselves. We disagree.

Oh sorry, let me qualify, your black and white tower. This absolutely does work for some vendors, especially those who have a poor history in dealing with vulnerability reports. You may not be one of them for the last 10 years, but you once were. Back in the late ’90s, Microsoft had a reputation for being horrible when dealing with researchers. No vulnerability disclosure policy, no bug bounty (even five years after Netscape had implemented one), and no standard process for receiving and addressing reports. Yes, you have a formal and mature process now, but many of us in the industry remember your beginnings.

It is necessary to fully assess the potential vulnerability, design and evaluate against the broader threat landscape, and issue a “fix” before it is disclosed to the public, including those who would use the vulnerability to orchestrate an attack.

This is a great point. But, let’s read on and offer some context using your own words…

Of the vulnerabilities privately disclosed through coordinated disclosure practices and fixed each year by all software vendors, we have found that almost none are exploited before a “fix” has been provided to customers, and even after a “fix” is made publicly available only a very small amount are ever exploited.

Wait, if only a very small amount of vulnerabilities are exploited after a fix, and ‘almost none’ are exploited before a fix… why do you care if it is coordinated? You essentially invalidate any argument for a researcher coordinating disclosure with you. Why do they care if you clearly state that coordination doesn’t matter, and that the vulnerability will “almost [never]” be exploited? You can’t have this both ways.

CVD philosophy and action is playing out today as one company – Google – has released information about a vulnerability in a Microsoft product, two days before our planned fix on our well known and coordinated Patch Tuesday cadence, despite our request that they avoid doing so.

And this is where you move from propaganda to an outright lie. The issue in question was disclosed on December 29, 2014. That is 15 days, not two days, before your January patch Tuesday. I’d love to hold my breath waiting for MSRC or Betz to explain this minor ’rounding error’ on dates, but I have a feeling I would come out on the losing side. Or is Microsoft simply not aware of public vulnerability disclosures and should perhaps invest in a solution for such vulnerability intelligence? Yes, blatant sales opportunity, but they are desperately begging for it given this statement. =)

[Update. Apparently Microsoft is unhappy over Issue 123 which was auto-published on January 11, as opposed to Issue 118 linked above auto-published on December 29. So they are correct on two days, but curious they aren’t complaining over 118 at the same time when both are local privilege escalation vulnerabilities.]

One could also argue that this is a local privilege escalation vulnerability, which requires a level of access to exploit that simply does not apply to a majority of Windows users. Betz goes on to say that software is complicated (it is), and that not every vulnerability is equal (also true), but also glosses over the fact that Google is in the same boat they are. A little over four years ago, the Google security team posted a blog talking about “rebooting” responsible disclosure and say this:

As software engineers, we understand the pain of trying to fix, test and release a product rapidly; this especially applies to widely-deployed and complicated client software. Recognizing this, we put a lot of effort into keeping our release processes agile so that security fixes can be pushed out to users as quickly as possible.

To be fair, Google also did not publish a timeline of any sorts with this disclosure. We don’t know anything that happened after the September 30, 2014 report to Microsoft. Did you ask for more time Google? Did Microsoft say it was being patched in January? If so, you look like total assholes, disclosure policy be damned. If they didn’t mentioned January specifically and only asked for more time, maybe it was fair you kept to your schedule. One of the two parties should publish all of the correspondence now. What’s the harm, the issue is public! Come on.. someone show their cards, prove the other wrong. Back to Microsoft’s blog…

What’s right for Google is not always right for customers.

This is absolutely true. But you forgot the important qualifier; what is is right for Microsoft, is not always right for customers.

For example, look at CVE-2010-3889 (heavily referenced) aka “Microsoft Windows on 32-bit win32k.sys Keyboard Layout Loading Local Privilege Escalation”. This is one of four vulnerabilities used by Stuxnet. Unfortunately, Microsoft has no clear answer if this is even patched, four years later. That CVE identifier doesn’t seem to exist in any Microsoft security advisory. Why not? Did you really let a vulnerability that may have aided an attack on an Iranian nuclear power plant go unpatched? Think of the ethics questions there! Or is this a case of the Microsoft security response process not being as mature as I give them credit, and this is a dupe of CVE-2010-2743? Why does it take a third-party four years to figure this out while writing a blog on a whim?

It is a zero sum game where all parties end up injured.

What does this even mean, other than propaganda? It is rarely, if ever, a case where “all parties” are injured. If a researcher discloses something to you and publishes prematurely, or publishes on their own without contacting you, usually that party is not ‘injured’ in doing so. That is simple fact.

Betz’ blog goes on to quote the Microsoft CVD policy which states:

Microsoft’s Approach to Coordinated Vulnerability Disclosure
Under the principle of Coordinated Vulnerability Disclosure, finders disclose newly discovered vulnerabilities in hardware, software, and services directly to the vendors of the affected product; to a national CERT or other coordinator who will report to the vendor privately; or to a private service that will likewise report to the vendor privately.

Perhaps you should qualify that statement, as US-CERT has a 45 day disclosure policy in most cases. That is half the time Google gave you. Quoting from the US-CERT policy:

Q: Will all vulnerabilities be disclosed within 45 days?
A: No. There may often be circumstances that will cause us to adjust our publication schedule. Threats that are especially serious or for which we have evidence of exploitation will likely cause us to shorten our release schedule. Threats that require “hard” changes (changes to standards, changes to core operating system components) will cause us to extend our publication schedule. We may not publish every vulnerability that is reported to us.

Note that it does not qualify “the vendor asks for more time”. That is the United States government saying a vendor gets 45 days to patch with rare exception. Oh wait Mr. Betz, before you go quoting “changes to core operating system components”, I will stop you there. Vulnerabilities in win32k.sys are not new. That 3.1 meg binary (on Windows 7) is the cause for a lot of grief for Windows users in that file alone. Given that history, you cannot say that changes to that file meet the US-CERT criteria.

Finally, this isn’t the first pissing match between Google and Microsoft on vulnerability disclosure. While Microsoft has routinely played the victim card and Google certainly seems more aggressive on their disclosure policy, there is a more than one bit of irony if one looks deeper. In random order…

Microsoft disclosed a vulnerability in Google Chrome, but didn’t do proper research. This vulnerability may be in WebKit as one person notes, meaning it could affect other browsers like Apple Safari. If it does, then Apple would get blindsided in this disclosure, and it would not be ‘coordinated’ or ‘responsible’, and would qualify as ‘information anarchy’ as Microsoft once called it. While we don’t know if it was ultimately in WebKit, we do know this vulnerability exists because Google Chrome was trying to work around issues with Microsoft software.

Look at MSVR11-011 and MSVR11-012 from 2011, where Microsoft “coordinated” two vulnerabilities with the FFmpeg team. To be sure, the FFmpeg team is outstanding at responding to and fixing vulnerabilities. However, in the real world, there are thousands of vendors that use FFmpeg as a library in their own products. While it may have been fixed in the base code, it can easily take somewhere between months and a decade for vendors to learn about and upgrade the library in their software. Only in a completely naive world could Microsoft call this “coordinated”.

Even better, let’s go back to the inaugural Microsoft Vulnerability Research (MSVR) advisory, MSVR11-001. This was a “Use-After-Free Object Lifetime Vulnerability in Chrome” that in reality was a vulnerability in WebKit, the underlying rendering library used by Chrome. The problem is that WebKit is used by a lot more than Chrome. So the first advisory from MSVR conveniently targets a Google product, but completely botches the “coordinated” disclosure, going to a single vendor using WebKit code, because the Microsoft researchers apparently didn’t diagnose the problem fully. No big deal right?

Wrong. I am sure Adobe, Samsung, Amazon, Tizen, Symbian, BlackBerry, Midori, and Android web browser users would disagree strongly. Do you really want to compare the number of users you blindsided with this “coordinated” disclosure to the ones you protected? Microsoft was a bigger jackass on this disclosure than Google ever was, plain and simple.

Finally, do I even need to go into the absolute mess than you call the “Advanced Notification Service” (ANS)? In case readers aren’t aware, this is not a single program. This is several different programs with various names like MAPP and others. Just three days ago, you Mr. Betz announced that ANS was changing. This is after another program got changed drastically, multiple companies were kicked out of the MAPP program, and who knows what else happened. All of which was founded on Microsoft giving advanced and sometimes detailed vulnerability information to questionable companies, that may not be friendly parties.

The entire notion of “coordinated” disclosure went out the window as far as Microsoft goes, when they first implemented these programs. You specifically gave a very limited number of organizations details about vulnerabilities, before other customers had access. That, by definition, is not coordination. That is favoritism in the name of the bottom line, and speaks strongly against any intent you outline in yesterday’s blog post.

While Microsoft has taken great effort to improve their security process, it is disingenuous to call this anything but propaganda.

Microsoft, Aurora and Something About Forest and Trees?

Perhaps it is the fine tequila this evening, but I really don’t get how our industry can latch on to the recent ‘Aurora’ incident and try to take Microsoft to task about it. The amount of news on this has been overwhelming, and I will try to very roughly summarize:

Now, here is where we get to the whole forest, trees and some analogy about eyesight. Oh, I’ll warn (and surprise) you in advance, I am giving Microsoft the benefit of the doubt here (well, for half the blog post) and throwing this back at journalists and the security community instead. Let’s look at this from a different angle.

The big issue that is newsworthy is that Microsoft knew of this vulnerability in September, and didn’t issue a patch until late January. What is not clear, is if Microsoft knew it was being exploited. The wording of the Wired article doesn’t make it clear: “aware months ago of a critical security vulnerability well before hackers exploited it to breach Google, Adobe and other large U.S. companies” and “Microsoft confirmed it learned of the so-called ‘zero-day’ flaw months ago”. Errr, nice wording. Microsoft was aware of the vulnerability (technically), before hackers exploited it, but doesn’t specifically say if they KNEW hackers were exploiting it. Microsoft learned of the “0-day” months ago? No, bad bad bad. This is taking an over-abused term and making it even worse. If a vulnerability is found and reported to the vendor before it is exploited, is it still 0-day (tree, forest, no one there to hear it falling)?

Short of Microsoft admitting they knew it was being exploited, we can only speculate. So, for fun, let’s give them a pass on that one and assume it was like any other privately disclosed bug. They were working it like any other issue, fixing, patching, regression testing, etc. Good Microsoft!

Bad Microsoft! But, before you jump on the bandwagon, bad journalists! Bad security community!

Why do you care they sat on this one vulnerability for six months? Why is that such a big deal? Am I the only one who missed the articles pointing out that they actually sat on five code execution bugs for longer? Where was the outpour of blogs or news articles mentioning that “aurora” was one of six vulnerabilities reported to them during or before September, all in MSIE, all that allowed remote code execution (tree, forest, not seeing one for the other)?

CVE Reported to MS Disclosed Time to Patch
CVE-2010-0244 2009-07-14 2010-01-21 6 Months, 7 Days (191 days)
CVE-2010-0245 2009-07-14 2010-01-21 6 Months, 7 Days (191 days)
CVE-2010-0246 2009-07-16 2010-01-21 6 Months, 5 Days (189 days)
CVE-2010-0248 2009-08-14 2010-01-21 5 Months, 7 days (160 days)
CVE-2010-0247 2009-09-03 2010-01-21 4 Months, 18 days (140 days)
CVE-2010-0249 2009-09-?? 2010-01-14 4 Months, 11 days (133 days) – approx
CVE-2010-0027 2009-11-15 2010-01-21 2 Months, 6 days (67 days)
CVE-2009-4074 2009-11-20 2009-11-21 2 Months, 1 day (62 days)

Remind me again, why the “Aurora” conspiracy is noteworthy? If Microsoft knew of six remote code execution bugs, all from the September time-frame, why is one any more severe than the other? Is it because one was used to compromise hosts, detected and published in an extremely abnormal fashion? Are we actually trying to hold Microsoft accountable on that single vulnerability when the five others just happened not to be used to compromise Google, Adobe and others?

Going back to the Wired article, they say on the second to last paragraph: “On Thursday, meanwhile, Microsoft released a cumulative security update for Internet Explorer that fixes the flaw, as well as seven other security vulnerabilities that would allow an attacker to remotely execute code on a victim’s computer.” Really, Wired? That late in the article, you gloss over “seven other vulnerabilities” that would allow remote code execution? And worse, you don’t point out that Microsoft was informed of five of them BEFORE AURORA?

Seriously, I am the first one to hold Microsoft over the flames for bad practices, but that goes beyond my boundaries. If you are going to take them to task over all this, at least do it right. SIX CODE EXECUTION VULNERABILITIES that they KNEW ABOUT FOR SIX MONTHS. Beating them up over just one is amateur hour in this curmudgeonly world.

Stop using Google, it’s dangerous!

Reported Phishing/Vulnerable Site! The web site http://www.google.com has been reported as a vulnerable site that may pose a threat to your web browsing. Vulnerable sites do not prioritize security and don’t care about their users and customers. These sites may pose a risk to you, exploit the trust between you and their site and may cause your computer to perform actions you did not approve.

To carry on the scary wording in the style of others; Some web sites are high profile and may seem trustworthy, but you shouldn’t trust them at all. They are full of buggy code, don’t care about protecting their users (that’s you!) and generally suck. Despite using their site as a virtual crutch, you should clearly stay away from them unless it is to send nasty mails or mock them. Again, do not trust Google’s web sites or search engine, because they have been known to be vulnerable. What assholes!

On a more serious note, if anyone at Google is reading this, I hope you pass this on to the jackasses that develop Google Toolbar or whatever hook they use to integrate with Firefox. Not only is it worse than malware (every piece of software tries to get me to install it), it uses misleading wording to scare customers from visiting perfectly safe and innocent web sites (namely this blog). While it caters to morons, it doesn’t give users a real opportunity to learn why a site was ‘blocked’ other than vague wording.

My only guess as to why this warning occurs was an incident earlier this year, in which the OSVDB blog fell victim to a zero-day exploit in WordPress. I blogged about the incident to make our readers aware of the incident and clear up any confusion. I assume that Google’s crawl of the this blog noted the script code and subsequently declared us an “attack site”, even though that is hardly the case.

The discouraging part is the “diagnostic page” says that Google visited ONE page in the last 90 days and 0 of those pages resulted in malicious software being downloaded. Google, if you are going to play Lord of the Browser, visit more than one page before you make that determination. To do anything less is a disservice to your users and a fast way to miss obvious malware. The third question mentions “intermediary” which is technically accurate as far as the script code that was injected in a few blog posts. However, the big red warning says nothing about ‘intermediary’ and explicitly labels us as some kind of malware hosting site with the intent of attacking people. That is libelous to say the least. Under ‘How did this happen’, Google mentions that sometimes third parties can inject such code, but doesn’t take the time to help clear this up. If the previous script injection issue is the cause of this, the fact that the script loaded content from a third party domain (in China no less) should be a good indication that WE did not host the malware. Sure, most users are dumb as a rock, but the few smart cookies that click for details should get just that.. details.

What Google Toolbar users may see when visiting this blog:


Finally, I opened the blog post calling Google’s search engine a threat, and I was serious. Google has a track record of vulnerabilities far worse than OSVDB does. Not only in their popular search engine, but their various products too. Besides, the mechanism for reporting potentially dangerous sites is a bit dubious to say the least.

Update: Ends up, we had another iframe injection into one of our posts (which is now removed), and the hunt for how this is happening now begins. That said, while Google’s warning that this site is “dangerous” may have been accurate, their mechanism for warning users in a vague manner (as shown in the image linked off ‘vague warning’) and not warning the site administrator is far from friendly. I can see that Google doesn’t care about warning sites of issues before warning the public, a far cry from ‘responsible disclosure’, something that Google pretends to care about:

This process of notifying a vendor before publicly releasing information is an industry-standard best practice known as responsible disclosure. Responsible disclosure is important to the ecology of the Internet. It allows companies like Google to keep users safe by fixing vulnerabilities and resolving security concerns before they are brought to the attention of the bad guys. We strongly encourage anyone who is interested in researching and reporting security issues to observe the simple courtesies and protocols of responsible disclosure.

Next time OSVDB is informed of a vulnerability that impacts Google products or services, I sure hope it doesn’t slip our mind to contact them. Perhaps the apparent race condition between the vague wording and the not-so-vague wording that users may see constitutes a bug. If they can read this blog, they can see the bug in action and then contact us if they have more questions.

Update 2: Google apparently tried to send mail to our domain: From: Google Search Quality

Three Projects For SoC 2008

We are pleased to report that OSVDB has been provided three projects for 2008. We would like to thank everyone that applied and encourage students that were not selected to still consider getting involved with the project. We had quite a few great applications but were unable to accept any more due to our limited mentoring resources this summer and the large number of new organizations taking part in SoC this year.

Here are the projects that were selected:

Patch Management Portal by Ronny Yabar Aizcorbe, mentored by David Shettler The system will provide a way to define when a patch should be in development, testing or production status. And will allow users the ability to select vulnerabilities and patches based on the OSVDB watch list. The main components of the tool will be: Prioritization and scheduling, Testing, Implementation and Compliance.

OSVDB Widgets and Gadgets by Marc Augustin, mentored by Chris Newby This project is intended to utilize the OSVDB as the main data source but should be a security dashboard for professionals via Gadgets and Widgets.

OSVDB Training Portal Framework by Sergios Pericleous, mentored by Jake Kouns This project will create a training framework which will aim to integrate as much as possible with the existing OSVDB portal. The portal will allow specific admin users to create training material and quizzes for end-users, and it will also allow end-users to read this training material and make comments on it, take the quizzes and receive a score, and to track their progress using a progress report and graphs.

Congrats Ronny, Marc and Sergios and we look forward to another successful summer!

OSVDB Selected for Google Summer of Code 2008

OSVDB has been accepted for Google’s Summer of Code for 2008. Please help spread the word and encourage all eligible students to apply for an OSVDB project! Google will begin accepting student applications on Monday, March 24, 2008!

If you have any questions or would like some more details about our project ideas please get in touch with us!

OSVDB GSoC 2008 Project Ideas

Google Summer of Code 2008 is officially on. Full details at http://code.google.com/soc/2008/

OSVDB has submitted an application and has been accepted. With our Summer of Code project work, we hope to build off the release of OSVDB 2.0 and develop new enhancements to OSVDB’s public services. Here is this years list of ideas/important projects, however we are open to proposals for other projects and ideas.

OSVDB Port Listing Project – Preferred language is Ruby on Rails We are looking to create a project that will be a central repository for all known ports and protocols. This will be the foundation of many new features such as referencing ports/protocols to OSVDB IDs. This will then allow OSVDB vulnerabilities to be better mapped to firewall rules, IDS alerts and potential integrations to other security projects such as NMAP. -This project should detail all well known/default/registered ports -This project must have a automated feature that can import port information from iana.org as a baseline (PORT NUMBERS) -This project must allow users to submit updates/edits wiki style -This project needs to include fields for necessary tracking including: Keywords, Number, Transport (TCP, UDP, ICMP, etc), Application, Links, Description

OSVDB Training Portal FrameworkPreferred language is Ruby on Rails This project is to create a flexible framework that can provide training on security issues. OSVDB is looking to not only provide information on vulnerabilities but be a repository for training information that will help educate end users on how to avoid security risks and developers on how to avoid coding insecure applications. -This project must be able to integrate with the existing OSVDB portal -This project must have an interface that allows users to create their own training material -This project must have an interface that allows users to create their own training quizzes -This project must have an interface to provide reports and track the results.
-A user needs to be able to creates a custom quiz or select from a list of OSVDB published quizzes. -A user needs to be able to send a quiz to multiple people by inputting email addresses. -The system will track the quiz and results based on the emails that are sent via the training portal. -This project should allow users to provide comments and coaching information in a wiki style to help educate -The project will ultimately cross reference OSVDB IDs: For example: when a user is viewing a specific vulnerability it will allow them to then take a training course and a quiz to test their knowledge

OSVDB Personal Edition Phase IIPreferred language is Ruby on Rails We released the OSVDB Personal Edition and it is a very small Ruby on Rails application that utilizes the SQLite database export to give you your own, albeit relatively feature-less, local OSVDB instance. This project is intended to take the OSVDB Personal Edition to the next level. -This project will provide improvements and a seamless installation package -This project will include new search features -This project will include new features defined by you!

OSVDB Widgets and GadgetsPreferred language is open for discussion! OSVDB has a very strong online feature set but a user needs to be logged in to use the services. This project is intended to utilize the OSVDB as the main data source but should be a security dashboard for professionals.
-Gadgets and Widgets should work for OSX and/or Vista -Should provide security news updates from multiple sources -Should provide alerts when new alerts from vendors are released -Should provide alerts for new vulnerabilities added to the OSVDB database -Should provide search capabilities for OSVDB -Must be able to support OSVDB API functionality

OSVDB Statistics ProjectPreferred language is Ruby on Rails This project is to create a flexible framework that can provide useful statistics on vulnerabilities from OSVDB. This project should take in consideration all of the fields and classifications in OSVDB. -Should create and generate standard/most popular graphs and charts each day and make available -Should create statistics that allows very flexible/detailed stats to be dynamically generated on demand by user -Some examples of statistics required: -# Vulns based on Disclosure Year -Detailed stats based on each vuln classification options (ALL OPTIONS) -# of vulns by Vendor -# of vulns by Product -# of vulns that do not have a solution (and by vendor) -Time from when a vuln was discovered and then disclosed -Create stats application that allows user to dynamically generate stats based on their own requirements. -Trend the number of vulns released per day

OSVDB Vulnerability Visual MappingPreferred language is open for discussion! This project is to create a visual mapping of all vulnerabilities in OSVDB. This will allow users to visually search the database and also to see the relationships between vulnerabilities. Have you ever seen music plasma? This could be pretty challenging but we have been wanting to see this project done for a long time!

Vulnerability and Patch Management PortalPreferred language is Ruby on Rails This project is to create a flexible framework that can provide organizations the ability to track and manage vulnerabilities and patches. OSVDB is looking to not only provide information on vulnerabilities but be a service that can provide security professionals a way to track and ensure that vulnerabilities have been addressed at their organization. -This project must be able to integrate with the existing OSVDB portal -Should allows users to manage life cycle of vulns and patches -Should allow user the ability selects vulnerabilities or patches based on OSVDB watchlist -Should create a lifecycle that will alert a user when a new vulnerabilities or patch is released and goes into the portal -User then can track their organizations progress including: Research, Test, Implementation, Closure -The project should allows an organization to show compliance with vulnerabilities and patches

Vulnerability Cross References and ScraperPreferred language is Ruby on Rails and open for discussion! OSVDB is a project that aims to have as many references to vulnerabilities as possible. Unfortunately, in most cases volunteers have to search by hand to find more information to add to an entry. The goal of this project to to create a module that can search multiple security resources and cross references OSVDB entries to other resources. -Cross reference OSVDB IDs and provide references that are missing -Search the following (all external references OSVDB uses) for a string: Bugtraq, Bugtraq Mailing List, CVE, Full-Disclosure Mailing List, ISS X-Force, Nessus, OSVDB, Packetstorm, Secunia, Securiteam, Security Tracker, Snort -Search the resources based on user supplied check boxes for refined/targeted searches -Offer simple search, pull back just a summary of findings -Offer recursive search for some sites. If the entry at another site (for example CVE) is known then it should be an option to pull back all of the other references in that entry as well -Should be a framework that allows new security sites to be added when they become available -Should run once a night and look at all entries (even old ones) to see if there are more references that can be added.
-There should be some kind of approval process or a quick way that we can automatically add the references to the appropriate IDs.

New security project? New security scanner? New OSVDB feature? – Preferred language is open for discussion! -Have an idea for a new security scanning tool? -Have an idea for a new features that is missing from OSVDB? -Have an idea that can use information from our web sacnning database? -Have an idea for a security scanner that searches local server for vulnerable scripts?



RICHMOND, VA, December 15, 2007 – OSVDB announced a major milestone in the cataloging, classification, description and management of software and hardware security vulnerabilities: The release of OSVDB 2.0, a complete rewrite of the web site using Ruby on Rails, provides substantial performance and reliability improvements for both developers and researchers. “OSVDB 2.0 will help evolve stagnant Vulnerability Databases and position OSVDB as the go-to security vulnerability database,” says Brian Martin, one of the project leaders.

OSVDB, a recognized leader in providing services to the security industry for the past five years, has cataloged nearly 40,000 vulnerabilities, with the help of over 300 volunteers, while gaining industry recognition and vendor support.

“The new Ruby on Rails MVC framework will allow for quick and efficient deployment of changes,” says Dave Shettler, Lead Developer of the OSVDB project. “This will provide greater flexibility to adapt to the changes in the vulnerability and security industry.”

Eighteen months ago OSVDB project leaders identified the need to provide more services, an easier interface for updating vulnerabilities and a way to make it simple for individuals and companies to integrate with the project. OSVDB 2.0 achieves these objectives.

OSVDB 2.0 enhancements include: greater detail about the overall nature of a specific vulnerability, a “Watch List” service that provides alerts for new vulnerabilities, consolidating external blogs by vulnerability, and new reporting metrics. The enhanced data will allow users to find vulnerabilities based on criteria such as attack type, solution status or if the vulnerability has been confirmed or disputed by the vendor. “We know that OSVDB 2.0’s new features will prove to be useful for the security community.” says Kelly Todd, one of the project leaders. “OSVDB is a team effort for improved security by the security community.”

Users of the old system will immediately notice that the project has implemented a customizable portal that fully integrates the old backend interface and the front end website. In addition, the method for updating vulnerabilities has been changed to a “Wiki style” system that allows contributors to edit individual fields when needed.

The enhanced classification system is now tracking the following additional fields: •Context Dependent •“Wormified” •Vulnerability Dependent •Security Software •Coordinated Disclosure •Uncoordinated Disclosure •Vendor Disputed •Vendor Verified •Solution Types •Wireless

The OSVDB project leaders–Jake Kouns, Brian Martin, Dave Shettler, Chris Sullo, Kelly Todd , and Steve Tornio– would like to thank all of the volunteers and organizations who help make the project a success. The full list of contributors to the project can be viewed at: http://osvdb.org/contributors

We would also like to thank our sponsors: •Google (google.com), for sponsoring OSVDB in the Google Summer of Code program in 2006 and 2007. •Layered Technologies (layeredtech.com), for web hosting. •GFI (gfi.com), for financial support.

“The OSVDB project will go as far as the community is willing to take it.”, says Jake Kouns, project lead. “We continue to encourage individuals to get involved and help shape the future of the project.”

If you would like to become involved with the project please contact us at moderators@osvdb.org

OSVDB 2.0 can be found at www.OSVDB.org.

Press Contact:

Jake Kouns Open Source Vulnerability Database Project +1.804.306.8412

Email: jkouns@opensecurityfoundation.org

OSVDB Chosen for Google Summer of Code 2007

For the second year now, OSVDB has been selected to participate in the Google Summer of Code program. It’s pretty neat to be in this program along with other relatively unheard of projects like Debian, FreeBSD, GNU, KDE, NetBSD, OpenSolaris, PHP, PostgreSQL, Python, Samba, Apache, EFF, Fedora and X.org. =)

As always, Google continues to give back to the community in ways most companies will never understand or appreciate.

Google VulnSearch?

Fall behind and someone will always beat you to the punch! Gadi Evron posted an entry over at Securiteam on the topic of using Google’s Codesearch to find vulns. Since he and others are writing about this, I don’t have to! However, i’ll post a few more thoughts before anyone else maybe!

First, we have this great ability to (ab)use Google’s Codesearch to find vulnerabilities through fast code analysis. Is this a fun but very short fad? Or will we see people use this to disclose vulnerabilities and give credit to their method? Will it lead to a lot of false positives> like we’re seeing with remote file inclusion? Several ‘researchers’ are grep’ing for a single stringle, finding it, and posting it as a remote file inclusion vulnerability without really analyzing the code or testing their own “proof of concept”. Hopefully, researchers will use this new tool to not only find vulnerabilities, but truly validate their finding before disclosing.

Second, who is going to be the first to create an interface that smoothly links the Google Codesearch with a robust static code analyzer? Imagine a web interface where you choose a few key things like what language, what types of vulnerabilities, and click click for all the results. The program would then use the Codesearch results to pipe into the code analyzer and spit out a list of high probability vulnerabilities.

Some of these ideas courtesy of email discussions with Chris Wysopal, Mudge and others.

OSVDB Selected for Google’s Summer of Code 2006

We are very pleased to report that OSVDB was selected for Google’s Summer of Code! This is great news as we hope to get some of the services and projects that have been on the back burner due to lack of development resources finally launched!

You can read about Google’s SoC here: http://code.google.com/soc/

With our Summer of Code project work, we hope to make several exciting enhancements to OSVDB’s public services. We have provided a list of important projects we are currently planning for–however we are open to proposals for other projects and ideas.

You can read about OSVDB’s Project Ideas here: http://www.osvdb.org/summerofcode.php

OSVDB has been working very hard to provide many additional types of a services to the community. Unfortunately, as mentioned due to lack of development resources we have been unable to make much of this happen. We now have an opportunity to possibly deliver on the OVSDB Portal and OSVDB Ethical Disclosure Framework commitments that we made when the project first opened.

You can read the public announcements with our intentions to provide OSVDB portal and disclosure services:

OSVDB Objectives: http://www.osvdb.org/OSVDB-Objectives.php

Vendor Dictionary Announcement: http://www.osvdb.org/news.php#vendorDictSiteUpgrade

Personally, I am absolutely thrilled that we may have the resources to develop the OSVDB Ethical Disclosure Framework. This has been one of the projects that I have been wanting for years and is validated as we see more and more issues with the disclosure process! I have believed all along that OSVDB can be the service that helps to improve, streamline and more importantly removes the mystery of the breakdowns in the process.

OSVDB has been handling one-off disclosures for researchers over the past 3-4 years and it is not an easy task. The amount of time it takes to handle a disclosure process is huge. We realized early on that a lot of the process needed to be automated in order to be successful and repeatable. Hopefully, there are some students out there that want to be apart of creating this service and we can get it launched by the end of the year!

We plan to post updates to the OSVDB blog as we get further in the process. If you have other ideas for projects that we should post please feel free to contact us at moderators@osvdb.org


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